Medan and the Online Scam
Sometimes last year, I received an enquiry from a doctor living in the states requesting help in purchasing a vintage Mercedes in Medan.. somehow, a Medanese guy post up the vintage car photos and according to Mr Doctor, he said that the car is really rare and that he wants it badly…. desperately enough, he wanted to fly to Medan to see the car as well… and Mr Doctor was ready to transfer the money to this scammer!!! Initially he wanted us to help in finding information on how to send the car over to the US and my husband and I thought that this whole thing did not sound right, so we asked him for the address of where this vintage car is located…. amazingly enough, this Medan scammer gave him the address of the car accessories shop ‘Sejatera Ban” at Jl Nibung (which is the street of car dealers)… but as we drove by the street everyday, we had never in our life saw such a car, so, we sort of told Mr Doctor that we believe that this whole deal is a scam….. the whole ending is that.. he gave up and and a very happy man …… thank god..
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BUT! thats not it!!… yesterday I received a comment about how another foreign businessman is being cheated off of USD$ 3000 from a claimed bicycle shop in Medan @ Jl. Putri Hijau
Take a look.. here is what he said..
Comment:
Medan crooks badly damage the economy of Indonesia !
A lot of dealers from Europe and the United States get cheated of young criminals from Indonesia and mainly from the city Medan via InterNet. This modern kind of cybercrime
This criminality does not only harm the businessmen from the foreign countries, it harms also the reputation of the Indonesian business in the world. Also the institutions of Indonesia. Likewise authorities and institutions of Indonesia appear weakly in relation to a small minority of criminals.
I believe, it exists a problem, which does not admit in the Indonesian public, but it must be known and solved.
They use Alibaba.com a Community channel and a place that allows business people to exchange business ideas, communicate business issues and find business resources.
A lot of Criminals meanly from MEDAN – and in my case – Andre Kusmana and Erwin Candra and their company “Original Bike.Co.,Ltd” in Medan, Jl. Putri Hijau No. 25 create a dummy firm.
They offer in the InterNet at Alibaba.com not existing goods.
They recruit with the following text and look for international dealers.
„We are the most professional manufacturer and exporter for high end bicycle and spare parts, based in Medan, Indonesia. Our products enjoy fast
Sales in worldwide market at present, due to our superior products and professional service. We have some kinds of mountain bikes and many types for choosing.“
They discribe their enterprise as Distributor/Wholesaler with 5 – 10 employees and a total annual purchase volume of US$5 Million – US$10 Million. (http://www.alibaba.com/member/id101342118.html)
But nothin exists!
They cheat buisinessman from Europa and North Amerika in simulating
buisiness dealings. They arrange dealings and operate in a big scale, promise to deliver and after the
international buissinessman had correctly paid the amount to their account, they hide in the suppost obscure internet!
This kind of cybercrime damaged the credit and the reputation of all the fair Indonesian buissinessman in international trade and I think, traders, politicans and the authorities are confronted with the problem to find a solution of this criminal problem and to protect international customers and also Indonesian exporter against this kind of cybercrime!
Erwin Candra!
Andre Kusmana!
I dispatch this text to you, because I would like to get back my deposited 3000 $ I have payed this criminals … but also because I dislieke the damage of the Indonesian economy and society. If you need more Informations:
Heinrich Hohage ( XXXXX @gmx.de )
Hasenberger Weg 2a
42897 Remscheid
Deutschland
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after I finished reading it, I felt bad.. really bad… because, on my previous post, I wrote of how I make money online… scam happens everywhere, and yes I do agree that Indonesia is very well known for it… why? many affiliate companies decline us once they detect the IP address is from Indonesia… and as a honest Indonesian, its terrible to be considered as one…
From my experiences, we will only accept money and send money online using reputable 3rd party like Paypal…. as these companies protect both buyers and sellers.. and me as a merchant, for me to request for money, Paypal required me to submit all sorts of proof to verified that I am REAL!!… so, my advice is that, if you need to pay for something online, using Paypal is safe… never pay directly to the bank account unless you are sure that they are known and reputable…. never go for company that provide you with only email address. Full contact details are often attached in the email for the legitimate company… like me @ MedanKu.com… hehhe
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p.s. to all foreign businessman, should you need help in verifying whatever online company that you have come across in MEDAN and is not sure of the company status, leave a note in any of my comment box and I will try my very best to help..
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medankota on May 8th 2008 in Guides, Medan Bisnis, Medan Nightmare
Janis responded on 17 Jun 2008 at 5:11 am #
Hello, i was trying to establish new business contact with a company in Medan… it failed
, after i payed deposit of 1299 USD.
The company name is: “PT Bicycle Sport Performance”
Contact Person: Mr. Hendra Gunawan
Street Address: Jln. Hm Yamin Ginting No. 90
City: Medan
So, of those who read this blog – DON’T BUY from them.
It would be great if you Vic could help me with next deal!
my e-mail: janiskviesis@gmail.com
Thank you!
John Skakie responded on 02 Jun 2009 at 4:12 am #
Hi
I too have been scammed by Mr. Pratama Tetriana of Tetriana Sports located at JI HM Joni No 555 Medan Propinsi, Sumatera U. He wanted to sell me a large lot of Mission NME Nine-1 skates, but I knew that these skates have been discontinued for sale in North America.
He agreed to sell me a sample of four different sizes for US$450 and ship them UPS. After wiring the money to the account of BCA # 8090056175 in the name of Alfin Pranata, I never heard from him again. The BCA bank’s address is Jin.Ahmad Yani No 280, Cenaidja, Medan Bandung Indonesia.
I also have several IP addresses that he used while responding to me on Alibaba.com. They are 125.162.42; 114.121.49; 178.195.21; and 125.162.21. If there is a way to track these addresses, then he might be brought to justice for fraud.
I have notified the local police cyber division that deal with fraud cases such as this, but the chances of getting my money back or the skates are very low. If anyone knows of these two criminals, turn them in to police.
John Skakie
Toronto Canada
Janis responded on 02 Jun 2009 at 6:09 am #
what is the possibility to catch the scamers?
i will find the same info, the IP addresses and everything else, maybe it would help for other to understand not to buy from them.
where did you notify the the cyber police? what site?
Janis Kviesis
Martin SOMMER responded on 18 Aug 2009 at 4:06 am #
Hello from Czech republic,
I have very bad experience. I wanted buy copy paper.I found company- HAZAIRI CHAN. I pay deposit 2600 USD via proforma invoice but I haven’t any goods. I am seeking some contact on police in Medan. But I think it will little chance because I think that is in Medan grande corruption. Medan is big shit. Now I am finding Mr HUSSAIN ALI ABDULLAH.I’ll kick him ass. Fraud firm from Indonesia write big lies on Alibaba. I think they are all big cheat.
Laurindo Mello responded on 08 Dec 2009 at 5:08 am #
I am a victim of this person and this company doing business through alibaba.com. I sent U$1.255 to this company last week and until today no reply from them.
They ad shows them as a Bike Company, etc, etc. How can we get in touch with Indonesian Police? Are they very corrupt as well? It is too bad we were victim of cybercrime.
This is the person´s name Mr Samapul Marikat.
Company PT. Pameran Sepeda
Address – Jl Aksara Mega Mas number 231
Name Bank :BANK MANDIRI
Name on Account :HENDRA PRATAMA
Account Number :133-00-0989856-0
Swift Code :BEIIIDJA
Branch Bank :KCP kebon Peuntas Cianjur
Adress Bank :Jl.kebon Peuntas Karangtengah Cianjur
Country :INDONESIA
Laurindo Mello (Brazil) December 7th 2009
medankota responded on 16 Apr 2010 at 10:25 am #
may I suggest you to email your embassy in Jakarta to file a complain.. I am sorry that I cant be of much help..
Yaacov responded on 15 Nov 2010 at 7:21 pm #
Hello I am realy sad that indoneisia is showing as Scamm land
I obught a machine HP6100 from a company called
ALFAONLINESHOP Via the intrnet
i transfered 3350$ to them to INDRA JOHAN to bank BANK BNI aacount 0190961204
of course after money transfer i did not here from this guy or company anymore this is a pure scamm they even told me thhat machine waqs shipped by BUANA INDO EXPRESS which is also a scamm
the company is still active on the internet and i saw they scammed some more people http://www.alfaonlineshop.com
they are located on:
JI THAMRIN 18 MEDAN 20214
PHONE NO: 62-6996872
I Hope this guys will be cought and put in Jail
this is giveing very bad name to Indonesia
How can i out a claim to police there
if documents needed i will fax it
thanks
Yaacov
chris responded on 03 Jun 2011 at 11:41 am #
Hi there I was going to purchase a bike from a shop called targin jaya in medan indonesia. I have been advised against it now by almost everyone i know. It is believe that it is to big of a gamble to buy anything from indonesia. The deals they are offering are unreal. Have you heard of this company?
Many thanks,
Chris
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Gino Martinez Insfran responded on 10 Jun 2011 at 2:28 am #
Hi.
I think I’ve been scammed by mail.
Send money to the account: Cahyo Nugroho – Mnadiri Bank
But received no details of the order of merchandise
Can someone help me with this phone number: 62 61 76383594 in medan
or 62 (61) 78 798561
Please I need your help
Dave responded on 20 Aug 2011 at 2:07 am #
Anyone hear of Erwin Store (erwinstore.com)–bike shop I want to see if they are legitimate. Price for a Trek Madone looks too good? They claim to be Paypal certified but..
Dane responded on 07 Oct 2011 at 9:01 pm #
Is point cycles a real bike shop? Address:
Jl Jend Gatot Subroto 30 Plaza Medan Fair Lt 1 68/70,Petisah Tengah,Medan P
MEDAN
Thankyou