home, Bangkok
being back home to bangkok is the only time that I total let go of all the stressful stuff in life….
as such, we have all gain weights, we kind of…. eat,sleep,massage, play… and I have since turned into a medical nerd like the local Medan… hubby gone full health check up and seem having problem with his heart …. seeing a cardiologist on wednesday, as well as dental checkup which he refused to see one for as long as I can remember …. after which … he walked off the room giving us all …. the biggest smile….. , the boys!! Jadon saw dentist in Medan before came back to BKK, and somehow he did not detect that Jadon has a crack on his back tooth … ended both boys have their teeth fixed and totally clean out …. the problem with my family is that… we never have the time to see doctors when we are in Medan… it’s always, ….. timing is not right, …..out of town or ….that the doctor is not available…
the new building
Lounge offering complimentary breakfast for healthcheck patients…. including the familiy members…
the hospital, Bumrungrad Hospital, is one of the best all round in Thailand… more than 50% of the patients are foreigner and very popular with the Arabian… I know the International Marketing Director (IMD) as I was supposed to be their representative in Medan, but due to time limitation, I could not take up the offer… anyway… IMD is a Singaporean who used to work for the Parkway group i.e Mount Elisabeth and Gleneagles hospitals…. the 2 most popular with Indonesians…. what I was gonna write is not some made up stories but ones that she told us and I have personally experienced so myself….
IMD told me that Singapore doctors often OVER treat their foreign patients… and that many times, the diagnose that the doctors gave to the patients are many times not the best for them… e.g, a cancer patient, there are many ways of treatment, but many times these doctors ….. will choose the treatment that they know of the doctors that they have good relationship with…. service level?… I don’t think I have to say… many of us would have experienced it all I supposed…
as for my own experienced, it was on the same day as 911 … and it was the first time for me in a Singapore hospital … we were in the country for a business trip, and I suddenly came down with urinary tract infections… it was so bad that I could not walk … so we went straight to emergency room at Mount E… I was put on bed rest from 5am to about 9.30 am …. while I wait for the specialist to arrive…. and somehow… cant exactly remember well.. my husband went to ask for a pushchair to push me up to the medical centre, he sort of politely asked for one and asked if he will be pushing himself or that there will be a nurse to do it… the whoever he was replied to him that “lending you one is good enough!!!”.. that was the first %$@*&…… next, when we saw the doctor… we were young.. about 27… the first question that he asked was… “where we are from, what is my husband occupation!”….. my hubby was a bit pissed by then… next, he diagnosed me, and listed a list of tests including CT SCAN !!!!!… darn… I knew all along that I was not well, but I was quite positive that I do not need to go through CT SCAN… ended I pay S$1200 for a simple diagnose for a mulfuction to one of my organ….. and obviously, the CT scan prove nothing wrong with my other parts….
and that was about the last time that we ever walked into one…. and it had been a long while since my in laws stopped going over to Singapore for treatments as well…. the only one doctor that my father in law still see is his cardiologist and he was reluctant to see the one in Bangkok… but last December, he needed a sinus operation and needed a cardiologist to make sure that he is up for the operation…. hahah.. ended… he sort of fell in love with the doctor and havent been back to the cardiologist in Singapore…. and it’s the same thing… OVER treat him… asking him to see him every 1/2 year while the Thai doctor said that he is doing fine and check up every 2 years is good enough…..
and when we found out that my father in law has Parkinson Disease, he sort of saw like 3 doctors in Mount E, all of them said that there is nothing that they could do, except gave him medication…. I didnt feel right and managed to find this amazing neurologist whom pointed out to us that Parkinson disease cannot be cured but is treatable.… and true to his words, my FIL is doing well…. its not cured but he is doing better….
pricing… it is a little slightly lower compared to Singapore… but it’s the service and the politeness of the doctor that my in law feel comfortable about the place…. although I have to warn that… you may still face with the same silly doctors in Thailand… but the hospital provide a rather detailed information of each doctor individual background before you choose to see one….. @ www.bumrungrad.com
for Medanese to get treatment in Bangkok is not easy…. cant argue with that…
and here’s Jadon being turned into some Japanese cartoon character by his cousin ……. my nieces love the Cosplay… some Japanese cartoon …..
Popularity: 11% [?]
medankota on June 23rd 2009 in Medan General, Recommended, thailand, thailand guide
momo responded on 23 Jun 2009 at 9:19 pm #
yeah i brought my japanese gf to that hospital before when she fell sick in bangkok, it was her idea in fact, very good indeed.
marsangel responded on 24 Jun 2009 at 12:54 pm #
I must thank you for featuring a new hospital for us to consider! My family have really bad experiences with Singapore’s doctors recently. My grandfather demanded a thorough check up, including endoscopy because his father passed away from stomach cancer, back in September 2008 because he started to have difficulty digesting his meals. His GP refused, laughing at him because he’s afraid of contracting the disease. Then at late April this year, he demanded another endoscopy, to which his doctor refused again and explained that his blood test was normal. He went to Penang, and only there that he knew there were tumours in his stomach. The doctors in Penang wanted him to undergo surgery although they weren’t completely sure. My grandfather flew back to Singapore immediately and my uncle accompanied him.
We looked for the best doctors and oncologist in Singapore (I’m sure you know who this oncologist is, he’s the most famous there). We’re told it’s already at Stage IV, and that nothing much can be done except ease his pain and prolong his life by undergoing surgery and series of chemotherapies. Now, if only his GP recommended a certified practicioner to perform an endoscopy back in September, his cancer could still be cured. The famous oncologist first assured us there was hope of total cure, now he said we could only prolong his life to maximum 2 years.
My father wanted to have an endoscopy performed as well last month, and his regular doctor refused because he said it was not necessary although my father had gastric pains (and afraid of contracting stomach cancer too because his own father died from that same cancer). Only after we insisted that we found out that he wasn’t certified to perform the procedure and he had to refer us to other specialist. After the endoscopy, the specialist referred my father back to the first doctor, so on and so forth. I don’t think I need to say how much money was spent on these two doctors, when the specialist was definitely capable of diagnosing and treating my father.
Really, do they think we in Indonesia here print money like central banks?
Medankota responded on 24 Jun 2009 at 6:22 pm #
hi marsangel..
firstly, sorry to hear about your grandfather…
actually… I just got back from the hospital, coz hubby needs to see the cardiologist…. this time he blankly pointed out to us how the cardiologist in singapore has OVERDONE on both my in laws….
i do agree with you that in Singapore, the doctors tend to ping-pong the patients… hence, ended… patients spent a lot of money… it’s crazy how they make things so unclear and make us wait and being impatient to explain to us the cause as well as the treatments…
if you need help with Bumrungrad Hospital, feel free to email me..
marsangel responded on 24 Jun 2009 at 8:37 pm #
Thank you for the offer. I sure will contact you when my family and I need to get checkups done. I told my mom about Bumrungrad yesterday after reading your post, and I checked it out on the net. I must say I’m very impressed with what I’ve seen and found out about it so far. It happened that someone had already told my mom about an excellent hospital in Bangkok on her last trip to Singapore taking care of my grandpa. My mom knew about it way before I did, and she couldn’t even operate a computer. Go figure.
My mother was worried about language barriers though, seeing that none of us can speak any Thai and her English is limited. I know there are interpreters in the hospital, but it will be soooo much better if they set up a representative here so they could help us arrange travel to the hospital back and forth and advise us on which doctors to see. But now I’m sure I can count on emailing you for any advices. Thanks a lot!
Pauline responded on 02 Sep 2009 at 9:33 pm #
This is a great post on Bumrungrad, I was searching for it because I want to go there for an operation which is really expensive in the States. Can you tell me how you chose a doctor? I went to the directory listing at the Bumrungrad website, and there were 10 doctors to choose from. I wasn’t sure how to proceed…is there a way to check the quality of a doctor/complaints.
Thank you.
Medankota responded on 03 Sep 2009 at 12:35 pm #
Hi Pauline..
from my past experiences… I look for the following in order of my priorities..
1st: graduate from overseas.. else at least with overseas practice
2nd: graduated in the late 90’s or early 2000s
3rd: a professor or an assistant professor since they are the ones that know best of the latest medication and technology for the treatment
4th: their look… I go for the smart nerd looking ones.. ^0^
so far.. with my selection criteria… I have been very happy with the doctors there… if you are unsure.. simply email them directly with your concerns…
FYI.. the hospital has a counter at the Bangkok International airport inside the arrival hall… they provide shuttle bus to the hospital at bht 1000pp which will be credited back to your hospi bill… i.e. complimentary if you use the hospi services…
if you are still unsure… email me at contact@medankota.com.. and I will try my best to help you… I know of some great people inside …
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